Conscious leadership, in Roxanne Chaput's words, means leading with human connection, empathy and compassion instead of only the bottom line. After about ten years as an executive, she says she left that path to guide leaders and healers. In this conversation with Jeremy Van Wert, she explains her view of fear, her call to healing work and a live energy scan.
ᛉKey takeaways
- Roxanne describes conscious leadership as leading with empathy and compassion, and says every role in a business is vital.
- She believes employees and contractors leave when they feel like a number and sense that nobody cares about them.
- In her experience, fear is often a story people inherited from family, society or their surroundings, so she asks clients whether a fear is actually theirs.
- She sees fear as sadness that was never expressed, and she says breath is where healing can begin.
- Roxanne says she does not heal others. She guides people, and she believes each person heals themselves.
ᛃ Moments in this one
ᚠWhat conscious leadership means: leading with human connection
Roxanne Chaput describes her work as conscious leadership and spiritual alignment. She says she began in the academic route, became an executive at several organizations and loved serving, yet felt something in her was unfulfilled. Jeremy introduces her as someone whose path in leadership resembles his own: she worked her way to the top, then went in a spiritual direction.
Over about ten years of leadership, Roxanne says she saw that human connection was missing. Leaders led with the bottom line, with savings and sales, and she calls those parts of a business vital. What she wanted was empathy and compassion alongside them. She does not believe one person is better because of a title, and she says every role in a business has its own value.
She also believes this affects who stays. In her view, employees and contractors leave when they do not feel fulfilled or aligned with leadership, because it is hard to stay somewhere that treats you as a number. True leadership, she says, is walking with others and helping them become leaders beside you.
ᚢFrom cancer center to a new calling
Before moving into education, Roxanne worked at a cancer center. She says she loved serving patients through palliative care and symptom management, and that the work was beautiful and also took a toll as she lost patients she had grown close to. In the education sector that followed, she found the connections superficial, with little empathy or compassion.
She describes a near-death experience at that point as a pivotal moment. It led her to ask whether she was serving the way she meant to, whether she was living in inner peace and whether her relationships fit her. Those questions, she says, changed how she led and pointed her toward leading light workers.
Jeremy says he knows this arc. He remembers entering leadership idealistic, having read the well-known leadership books, and later finding that many of the people around him did not live by those principles. If that contrast sounds familiar, you can read more about Jeremy's own background in leadership before he became a therapist.
ᚦBridging science and spirituality: how Roxanne sees it
Jeremy asks how she works with doctors who dismiss alternative healing. Roxanne answers that science is a measuring tool and a process of discovery, which is why it keeps changing. She believes spirituality came first and that in tribal communities the healers were the medicine doctors.
She says she has worked with medical doctors, psychologists and social workers, and she respects the tools they provide. In her view, they tend to address the mental and physical body but not the emotional or spiritual body. She describes cellular healing as work with the whole multi-dimensional being, covering the mental, emotional, sensory, physical and astral energetic bodies.
She also compares unseen energy to Wi-Fi: people trust that it works without seeing the signal. These are Roxanne's beliefs, and the episode does not test them.
ᚨWhy fear blocks us, according to Roxanne
Asked about the common blocks people carry now, Roxanne answers in one word: fear. She says many belief systems are created in fear and that fear often rests on a deep sadness that was never expressed or released. She calls the chakras centers of intelligence, and she says she sees fear blocks in those energy centers.
From what she describes as about 20,000 mentorship clients, she says every fear comes wrapped in a narrative. People worry about income, rent or a car, and she asks whether the fear is real and whether the belief is actually theirs. Sometimes, she says, it is projected from other people's lives, from growing up in poverty or from society, and she believes we are not born understanding fear.
Her practical starting point is breath. She says that when people express the true emotion under their anxiety, and when they go into their breath, the anxiety begins to dissipate. For someone whose fear feels heavier than a breathing exercise can reach, individual therapy with Jeremy is one place to work with it in a clinical setting.
ᚱThe dream that called Roxanne to the land
Roxanne says she is of a Métis tribal community, Native American and French. After a later near-death experience, she says her ancestors called her in dreams for almost four months. She saw a woman who felt like a great-grandmother, with a river between them, chanting a song, and she woke up each morning chanting it.
She took the dream to a shaman and elders of her community. She says the shaman told her she was being called to the land to heal, and that when she chanted the song he recognized its melody from his own grandfather. A second spiritual guide with no link to the first told her the same thing, so she says she trusted the call.
One morning she drove to ancient healing grounds and ended up in a ceremony she had not planned. She calls it life-changing, a reconnection to her ancestry. She presents this as her own experience.
ᚲA live energy scan with Jeremy
Near the end, Jeremy asks what she sees in him. Roxanne says she is a visionary healer who receives images and words, and that a full scan takes her five to ten minutes. She reads distortion in the crown, which she links to the logical mind overriding guidance, then a need for clearing in the throat and old sadness in the heart.
Her suggestion for the throat is humming and clearing, since she says sound raises vibration. For the crown, she suggests deep meditation and asking whether you are being truthful with yourself and countering guidance with doubt. Jeremy says much of it resonates, though this is her reading and not a diagnosis.
ᚷWhy Roxanne says no one is broken
Jeremy asks how lives change. Roxanne says people arrive describing themselves as broken, and she does not believe anyone is. In her view, people are always evolving and mastering themselves, and she prefers not to be called a healer because she believes we only heal ourselves.
She says her main wish for society is that people learn to breathe in order to heal, not just to survive. Healing yourself, she believes, also heals at least seven generations behind you.
If you want to think this through with other people, the Mindful Mutiny community offers real conversation, live Fireside Chats and a course library. It is a place to talk about leading from the heart without having to do it alone.
Roxanne's views on energy, archangels, science and healing are her personal beliefs and experience, not medical advice or a substitute for professional care. If you are struggling, please reach out to a licensed mental health professional or your local emergency services.
ᚨ Questions people ask
What is conscious leadership?
Roxanne describes it as leading with human connection, empathy and compassion, not only with the bottom line. She does not believe in hierarchy that demands respect because of position, and she says true leadership walks with others and helps them become leaders.
Where do fear blocks come from?
Roxanne believes many fears are narratives that were instilled by family, society or surroundings, and sometimes they are projected from other people's lives. She also says fear often sits on top of a deep sadness that was never expressed.
What does Roxanne mean by centers of intelligence?
It is her term for what many people call the chakras. She believes they act like neural centers that carry information, and she expects science to find more intelligence in them, though that is her belief.
How does Roxanne describe the link between science and spirituality?
She calls science a measuring tool and a discovery process, and spirituality the older source of human healing. She says Western medicine and ancient practices can work well together.